YOU ARE ABOUT TO LEARN A WAY to make a change in an industry that has long been in favor of a few élite in our society.
This blog, written in a conversational tone, presents ideas that will benefit everyone who drives a car, but we need to act together. Please read on.
SURELY EVERY DRIVER IN THE WORLD knows about car insurance — how important it is and how expensive it is. What most people probably don’t realize is that insurance is a gamble — a psychological gamble in a double jeopardy fashion. The insurance company, i.e. the CEO, collects your money (premium) now, betting on the chance that you won’t get into an accident and therefore wins your money. You on the other hand, scared by the prospect of getting into an accident, will pay now so that the CEO will pay, instead of you, for damages you cause. The CEO don’t want you to get into an accident and so do you. Who wants to get into an accident anyway? So then you’ll do everything in your power and ability to drive safely, not taking any risks. No one wants accidents. That’s where the gamble is. In effect, you are betting your money on the side of the CEO, and, like it or not, against yourself – a double-bladed sword on your bet.
But let’s not kid ourselves. Accidents do happen and can happen to anyone — safe driver or reckless one. Insurance companies use statistics of accidents to scare us. And we should be scared. The problem is you only hear the bad news. You’ll never ever hear about good news; for instance a comparison in numbers of drivers with serious or fatal accidents and drivers with only minor fender-benders, not to mention drivers with no accident at all. Think! How long have you been driving? Months? A year? Ten years? Twenty, fifty years? How often have you gotten into an accident? Every day? Every month? Every year? If that were so, it’s a miracle you defied death, afford the premium and even more mysterious is who or what insurance company would sell you a policy. But that is far from reality, of course. Fact is you are not that kind of driver. You and I know no one of that sort. On another view, in a city, big or small, where thousands upon thousands of vehicles cruise every street, highway and freeway everyday, have you seen hundreds of accidents every single minute, every single day, in every single city? If that were so, all insurance companies, big or small, would either raise premium rates sky-high or they’d go belly up real quick. But again that’s not reality. Reality is that these companies are immensely doing great. How? Why? Because, we, the drivers, are faithfully and blindly cooperating with them. Of course we have to. There is no other choice. We do our best to be accident free — that’s what the CEO wants and so do we. Now think. At the end of our driving life, when we can no longer drive a car due to old age or ailment, who collects the bet? You know who, but it’s not you.
It is comforting to be accident free. It’s better if it is rewarding too — like getting some if not most of those premium monies we’ve paid the CEOs for practically three-quarter of our lives.
So you see, the insurance industry today is a humongous gambling institution sanctioned by the government much like the lottery or the casinos in Las Vegas. Truth is, the lottery and casinos are a better proposition because you can actually win. In the insurance gamble, you will never see a single winner. The only winner is the CEO. You do not consider yourself a winner when the CEO pays for your accident. That’s only fair! But then he turns around and raise your premium big time! You then either pay his price or he’ll kick you out.
Almost every insurance company today boasts about saving you big money but when you go get a quote, it’s still an arm plus leg, …for crying out loud! They use ridiculous factors such as your zip code and your credit score to pad up your premium. How in the world would zip code or credit score causes accidents? When an accident happens in a bad neighborhood, ie, zip code, is it because of the zip code, or the driver? When one gets into an accident in a good neighborhood, does the police cite the driver because he has bad credit score? Baloney!
Do you wonder what kind of salaries the executives of these giant establishments are pocketing? Six digits? Seven digits? Do the reasearch. Oops…, not to mention their just as ridiculous bonuses! Where do you think the dough is coming from most? Yes, you and me — millions of us. Chances are they might even have their own cars insured for free. And who pays for it? Again, millions of us poor drivers. Well, if they indeed pay for their own car insurance, then I’m wrong in that regard. But if I’m right, how do you feel?
Is there a way we can turn this lopsided table around in our favor? That’s my quest, my crusade. Join me. Read on.
Let us look further into the basic practice of today’s car insurance business. We insure just about anything of value we possess for fear of loss. Most are reasonable, some are just unnecessary expense. A car is of course a valuable property. We insure our car, or cars. If you have more than one car, each one of your cars carry insurance to cover against liability, loss and whatever else is spelled out in your policy. We even insure somebody else’s car that has less coverage or no insurance at all (which is funny to me). But then again, we insure because accidents do happen. That’s the main reason, in fact the only reason. It is protection.
So, your car is insured, meaning the car carries insurance. Whatever damage happens to it whether you caused it or someone else did, the insurance pay. But wait, … ask this question: does the car causes damage to itself? No! The question then is… what or who causes accidents, the car or the driver? Should we even debate that? Well, on second thought, yes that’s debatable; for instance the brakes fail, or a tire blows, or some mechanical/electrical malfunction occur while you are in the heat of traffic at high-speed. I can’t blame the driver for that. But, the good driver knows what to do in such situations and he knows his car – he maintains it in good condition. Yet again, I’d say the majority of car accident is caused by driver fault.
IDEA ONE: DRIVER INSURANCE (not car insurance) - A NEW CONCEPT
What is “Driver Insurance?” Driver Insurance is just what the name says – you are ”ensuring” that your act of driving is safe, and that you are liable (insured) for damages if you happen to cause an accident while driving a vehicle. I can’t put it any clearer than that.
With driver insurance, a driver can drive any car and that car is covered for insurance purposes. Therefore, if you own two or three or dozens of cars, you don’t insure all of them — they are all covered under your driver insurance. Of course if you have that many cars, you can surely afford to buy today’s traditional insurance. No problem.
But why driver insurance and not car insurance? Glad you ask, …okay, can you drive two cars at the same time? Huh..? You drive your Pinto to work and your Mercedes will sit in the garage. If you want to go on a pleasure drive, you go out in your flashy car and your workhorse sits in your garage. Cars in the garage are not likely to get into an accident; the one on the road may! To extend this idea of driver insurance, you can borrow your friend’s car or lend him yours and no one worries about insurance because the driver, with a driver insurance, automatically assume liability on the car he drives whether owned, borrowed or rented. Driver insurance is primarily liability insurance with all the other types of coverages of conventional insurance as optional.
We are very much concerned about motorists driving uninsured cars because “hit-and-run” accidents are prevalent. The problem is, one can get a driver’s license just by passing some tests. There is no other requirement. You are not required to have a car. So, once you get your driver’s license, you are free to drive a car, insured or uninsured.
With the driver insurance concept, the Federal Government could mandate driver insurance as a requirement for obtaining a driver’s license. That way, all Motor Vehicle Divisions nationwide will not issue or renew driver’s licenses without proof of driver insurance. No one dare drive a car without a driver’s license. This, I’m sure, will vanish our concerns about “hit-and-run,” uninsured or underinsured motorists. Sure there are hard-headed people who’d still drive a car without a license — but that is like operating a business without a business license. Sooner than later your door will be padlocked. In the case of driving, you’d go straight to jail at first offense — and you don’t get out until you get your driver’s license which means you have driver insurance. That’s harsh you say? Well, that’s to prevent you from being run-over and left for dead by a driver without insurance.
IDEA TWO: MONEY BACK — THE BEST INCENTIVE TO DRIVE SAFELY
There is no better way to reward a good driver than to give him his money back after his driving life is over. I repeat — THERE IS NO BETTER WAY TO REWARD A GOOD DRIVER THAN TO GIVE HIM HIS MONEY BACK. Period. How else can you put a big smile on his/her face than a tidy sum of money in his/her bank account when he/she needed it most? HE has invested in his future by being a good and safe driver. SHE has invested in her future by being a good and safe driver. THEY should be rewarded after they’re done with driving. Don’t reward the CEO!
Maybe you know somebody, as I know my father who drove for about fifty years, paid an average premium of $500.00 a year and had no major accident. He would have had at least $20,000.00 in his own pocket when he stopped driving due to old age. Even in today’s economy that would still be a good amount.
If a teenager today starts driving at age 16, have a driver insurance, survives the teenage mania, matures and have a good driving history, paid an average premium of $1700.00 per year, how much would he have at retirement at say, age 67? Imagine that, that teenager had no claims at all. A simple calculation will give him a good $86,700.00. Imagine again that his money earned interest at even a very low rate for 47 years. You get the picture. It’s like having a second Social Security benefit, don’t you think?
So is there a company today that offers money back guarantee? I don’t think so – they’re all out there to make a killing. There may be one or two that give a minimal part of your premium, called discount, but then they’ll take it back later – count on that.
IDEA THREE: A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION
To win the insurance gamble, let us pool ourselves and form a non-profit organization – this is the only way we can turn the tide in our favor. The following is a plan I believe will be effective to bring realization to this goal.
As I have described earlier, it is driver insurance, not car insurance. Therefore it is an individual insurance. You do not include your spouse or your teenagers in your policy. They will have their own policy — after all, in due time, they will collect their own money too. However, one payor can pay the premium for all in the family, if that’s the case, and the total amount will then be allocated according to each individual rate and according to the allocation procedure as explained below.
Premium is allocated in two categories: the ”common fund account” and the “personal fund account.” Your first annual premium will go to the common fund account. On your second year, 75% will go to the common fund and 25% will go to your personal fund account. The third year will be 50/50 and the fourth year will be 25/75. On your fifth year, 100% of your premium will go to your personal fund account and it is here where you build up your fund for your future benefit.
If in any year of your membership you have an accident where you are at fault, your personal fund account is exhausted first before the common fund kicks in. Then you’ll have to start over. However, the allocation is accelerated in the following way: first year – 100% to the common fund; second year – 50/50; third year – 100% to your personal fund.
Your personal fund account will also have the function of comprehensive coverage such as collision, property damage (other than cars), roadside help, towing, windshield glass, etc. You have the option of using your personal fund account or not. But any way you look at it, whether from your own pocket or from your personal fund account, it’s still your own money. Remember, this is only when you are at fault. If you are not at fault, your damages are settled through the common fund and nothing comes out of your personal fund account.
PREMIUM is based on your driving history and the type of car you own. If you own more than one car, your premium is based on the most expensive one. These are the only factors to be used to determine your premium rate. I don’t ever believe that zip codes, credit scores/history, age, gender, and whatnot, would get you into an accident.
MEMBERSHIP is open to all with a valid driver’s license. A minimal membership fee and the first annual premium is paid upon enrollment. Membership is lifetime. You can not be cancelled by the organization for any reason other than non-payment of premium. You can, however, cancel your membership voluntarily. There is a forced termination of membership for reasons of incapacitation to drive, move out of the country, or death. All reasons of forced termination qualifies for the money back guarantee provided there is fund left in the member’s personal account. Every member will know the status of their account as they will be given a record or a “passbook” similar to a savings account passbook. Paying your premiums is as easy as going to the bank to make a deposit to your savings account — which is literally true once you pass the first four-year membership.
The type of insurance to adopt can be a MODIFIED NO-FAULT insurance. The basic premise of a no-fault insurance as practised by some States may be adopted or modified to agree with the concepts described above.
At this juncture, nothing is chiseled in stone. All new organizations undergo refinements of policies, figures, rules and regulations in the establishment stage.
FELLOW DRIVERS, I have now laid out the basic concept of my crusade. This calls for a united effort. Let us bring ourselves together and form a non-profit organization. I know that the government heavily regulates the insurance industry. In my view, this concept will pass for a non-profit organization for the purpose of insurance. The idea is clear – money back is the best incentive to drive safely. We have a plan that guarantees and enable us to win the insurance gamble — our hard-earned monies back to us.
The cry for “change” is loud and clear in every election campaign. Today, it’s still political wranglings — politics as usual. It is up to us, you and me, millions of us to make a change starting here on the car insurance industry. We either continue contributing to the coffers of the big profit monger companies we have to deal with today, or we stop and start building our rewards for driving safely. It is a daunting task, I know, to organize a large number of people, but it is NOT IMPOSSIBLE. IT CAN BE DONE! WE CAN DO IT!
Needless to say, you do not cancel your policy as yet. This is a long journey.
Meanwhile, please help spread the word. BE A CRUSADER! No one can do this alone. I call on people, knowledgeable people on establishing such an organization — you will be part of history for generations to come. You may contact me via email: urellodama@yahoo.com.
Anyone who wishes to join, please send a postcard to: Urell Odama, P.O. Box 41462, Mesa, AZ 85274, or by posting a comment on this blog. You don’t have to give your personal information — a nickname and your city will do. Then, from time to time, come back to this site to learn of any progress and/or announcements.
Thank you and I welcome your questions/comments — pro or con.
Urell Odama
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Naive.
Insurers set the premium by:
# determine the average cost of claims
# adding a margin for costs (IT, legal etc)
# adding a margin for profit (shareholders need some reward)
Insurers also suffer much higher than expected claims occasionally, such as during cyclones and floods. You need to set aside a heap of money to pay the claims in these ‘unlucky’ years. Insurers aim to make good profits in most years so that there is plenty of money stashed away to pay the claims in the bad years.
Do you know a good actuary? Best to have a chat with appropriate qualifications.
Thanks for commenting, Tony.
PROFITS? No..! We are not talking about PROFITS for CEOs, SHAREHOLDERS, and the rest of them. We are talking about saving you, the driver, your money for your waning years instead of giving it to the CEOs, SHAREHOLDERS, and the rest of them for their pleasure vacation in some luxurious beachfront hotels somewhere around the world.
REWARD? Yes.., but not for CEOs, SHAREHOLDERS and the rest of them. Reward yourself. You don’t plan to die by the roadside, do you? When your driving days is over and you have figures in your balance sheet, you’ll be smiling all the way to the bank. On the other hand, when you are done with driving, the CEOs, SHAREHOLDERS and the rest of them will just say…bye, bye!! They probably don’t even know who you are.
NAIVE? Hmm… I’ll just say COMMON SENSE.
Good luck passing that one through Congress
Thanks. Maybe you can help.
I’m afraid you have an oversimplified view of insurance, chum.
You are right, buddy, because the insurance business has been overcomplicated by profiteers. Let’s make it simple and beneficial for you and me, for our children and generations to come. Join me. Be a crusader. Email me if you have any specific question. Thanks buddy.
My dear friend, I am an actuary in the insurance industry, albeit with only a few years of experience behind me but I think you need to know the following:
1. Your idea of a non-profit cumulative fund is a sound one, given that you can filter who enters your fund. You see, for every person that causes a claim within their first 1 or 2 years in the fund you will probably lose the funds donated by another 100 or so people. (all number are arbitrary as I’m certain the costs will be far worse)
2. If you take the time to look at the annual results of the insurance industry across various countries/states you will find that more than 95% of companies run motor insurance at a loss. This information is publicly available if you take the time to do your research. All their profit comes from other lines, why would they keep insuring vehicles then? Because it’s an entry point for the customer.
3. Even a person driving for 40 years without an incident can have a major issue, just this year we witnessed a claim by a 55 year old married woman, claims free for the past 20 years. Long story short she veered into oncoming traffic and smacked head-on into a car carrying 5 19-yr olds all of whom are currently in need of reconstructive facial surgery. The damage is set to top $750.000
4. As far as using zip codes and credit scores is concerned, given that you have sufficient data points it is easy for correllations to become apparent whereby you don’t need to arbitrarily charge everyone an insane price but can provide lower rates to those customers who do not fit into the ‘dangerous’ criteria. There will always be exceptions to the rule but the law of large numbers is what makes it all tick over.
As Tony mentioned above, you need to have some more in-depth conversations with people in the industry and perhaps even do some more research.
To summarize, motor premiums are not where insurance companies make their money. Furthermore it is a business, by the same token you should refuse to buy anything from the supermarket because they mark-up their prices for a profit.
Napalm,
I am glad that people in the know are responding to my ideas. As I said in the 4th paragraph of my article, you only hear the bad news. And that is right, isn’t it? Also, we are in the same boat, my friend, by your mention of the law of large numbers. I am well aware that this idea or concept will never work with just a few thousand members — that is why i am on this crusade. It is time we make a change! Let us bring out our best ideas. There are some floating around like: “Pay-by-the-Mile,” or “Pay-at-the-Pump” type of insurance. Read those and compare to mine.
As for your comment on insuring motor vehicles as an “entry point for the customer” (apparently meaning other lines of insurance) I believe you are in the middle between right and wrong. For the entire population of a State, any State, I am sure that evrery household have at least one car and possibly more than one half of these household do not have a house to insure, a boat to insure, a jet, jewelries and what-not. So where are these profits coming from? Of course it’s a business — it’s all about money. The CEO doesn’t care where it’s coming from.
Yes furthermore, I want to talk to you guys who are knowledgeable in the insurance industry. Educate me because all I know is common sense. Thanks guy.
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It is nice to see people challenging the norm, and new and innovative ideas are always interesting. However before offering alternative views I think you firstly to understand how the existing system works.
Most of us feel aggrieved at the level of insurance costs partially because it is a compulsory purchase, and also because it is and intangible product can not really see the value of the purchase. That is why any blog that seeks to challenge the insurance industry will always get general approval, whether or not the alternative offered is any better.
To suggest that the insurance industry favors the elite in society, suggest that insurance companies are proprietary companies owned by the elite few. In reality most insurance companies are publicly quoted companies owned by a large number of shareholders. In addition to the individuals who invest in these companies, many of the shares are owned by pensions funds (including government pensions). In reality these are our funds and we are the actual shareholders that we are complaining about.
Motor insurance in particular is a compulsory purchase in order to ensure that the innocent injured party is protected. Generally this ensures that the driver who is responsible for the accident is insured to cover the costs of the damage done. It may seem unjust that your policy may pay out when you are not at fault for instance where a trye blows out. However isn’t it far better that the insurance pays this than that the injured party gets no compensation.
The real question then is whether or not the mechanism of insurance which has stood the test of time van provide this protection in a fair and equitable fashion or whether a conceptual approach can be more effective.
In relation to the profitability of insurance companies an earlier commentator highlighted that insurance companies often write this business at a loss and there is much evidence to support this. Even where profits are made they are generally quite small (and also rely on the investment income to achieve these profits). Of all the classes of insurance this class is probably written to the tightest margins for a number of reasons. Firstly this is a fiercely competitive market which ensures the customer gets a fair deal. Secondly this is the most regulate sector of the insurance industry because it is compulsory. Thirdly it is the most predictable insurance in terms of potential loss due to the homogeneous nature of risks and the statistical information available.
The question of the massive salaries / bonuses is somewhat naive. The insurance industry is no different than any industry. The top paid executives are those who add the highest value and usually add far more value than they cost. In fact the Distribution and administrative costs are very low compared to other industries, which ensures that the vast majority of premiums paid is used to settle claims.
The other question relates to the fair apportionment of premium. Once again because of the statistical information available, insurers can build very sophisticated rating models to ensure that premiums reflect the potential risk
Is there a better way of doing things – possibly there is. However I do not believe that solution lies in the suggestions put forward.
IDEA 1 DRIVER INSUARANCE. This is not a new concept and it is the Driver who is insured. Yes the driver is covered in respect of a particular vehicle, otherwise a driver with a small low value vehicle would pay the same premium as the driver of the Bugatti Veyron. valued at €1,000,000. That most certainly is not equitable.
The argument that you can only drive one vehicle at time does not work either as most policies allow additional drivers
Also imagine a family where Husband and wife and 2 children are all named under the policy. under the current system only one person can drive so only one premium is charged. under your concept, all 4 would gave to buy insurance even though there is only 1 car. this is not equitable.either
MONEY BACK – The whole concept of insurance is that the premium of many pay for the claims of the few. If money paid back to those with a claims free record then those with claims would have to pay a substantially higher premium to be allowed back for safe driving, this would have to be funded out of the premiums paid. If we allow back premiums to those who don’t claim, then those who do claim would have to pay far higher premiums.
THE NON PROFIT ORGANISATION – a number of insurance companies are actually mutuals,operating for the benefits of the policyholders. In reality the prices charged by these insurers are no different than those charged by other insurers.
The complicated structures being suggested do not seem to me to offer any real advantage. In buying motor insurance, I am looking for a protection policy. The concept of building a fund is to my mind complicating the story. If in addition to the insurance cost, we are also building a potential fund, this can only increase the cost of the insurance. Personally if I am going to build a fund I would rather be in control of this investment personally. I can then chose to use this fund at any time for any purpose I see fit.
Hi Dave,
I’m glad you posted a meaningful comment on my concept on the insurance industry. In some parts, I agree with you although I would say, particularly in the third paragraph, that these “large number of investors” are exactly the reason for the high cost of insurance, because they have to make a profit.
For the most part, I disagree with some of your statements but I will not argue line by line or statement by statement, but since it seems to me that you missed or misunderstood some key elements about my concept, I would like to clarify those. For instance: IDEA 1: DRIVER INSURANCE. You stated it is not a new concept. Well, look at your policy, does it say “driver insurance,” or “car insurance?” It is so easy to confuse these two. In your policy, you are “named insured.” That is not the same as in my concept of “driver insurance.” The other misunderstood part I believe is the equitability of premium. If one owns more than one car, premium is based only on the most expensive car. The other cars you own, no matter how many, are listed in your policy but you don’t pay premium on any of those cars because you can never drive two cars at the same time. Remember, this is an “individual” insurance. Now, if you are a “family,” all members of your family who can drive should also have their own account, i.e. driver insurance. Why? Because we all grow old, no one scapes that. That time will come when you can no longer drive and that’s the time you collect your money back – if you have an account, i.e. driver insurance.
The concept of building a fund is not an investment, per se – it is not for you to “use at any time for any purpose you see fit.” Wrong my friend. That fund you are building is still an insurance money to be used for as long as you are driving a car. However, by the time you can no longer keep up with the “kids” on the road, when one rolls down his window and yells at you and say.. “hey grandpa, get off the road, you are a hazard,” that’s the time my friend to surrender your driver’s license, i.e. driver’s insurance, and go deposit your built up “fund” – that’s the essence of my concept.
As I read further on your comment, it appears to me your arguements relate to our current insurance system. You are not absorbing the concept I’m trying to forward. It is still an insurance that gives you protection just as conventional insurance do but in some respects it is quite different in that it benefits you, the driver, not those big companies and their investors. Open your mind, Dave, join me in this crusade – you will be rewarded. We can have a dialog through email (urellodama@yahoo.com) if you wish.
Urell
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I’d rather not waste my time or yours in pointing out how naive and ignorant you opinion about the insurance bussiness is. You clearly do not have a clue about how it works. Seek good actuarial advice for you to understand a little about the entire mathematical analysis behind it. Some of the thing you mention are text-book naive mistakes about how the entire system works. Go to an actuary or risk expert and be taught so that your ideas may have more factual basis and may actually someday become a useful model for us actuaries to employ. Trust me it is not that big a conspiracy nor fraud, it is simply a complex service.
Got you. Does it take a rocket scientist to understand how the insurance industry works? Yes it takes a mathematical genius, called an actuary, to make a buck for the CEO and his investors. Yes the industry employs a “risk expert” to figure out how to manipulate the figures to favor one side of the equation. DON’T FORGET, THAT THE OTHER HALF OF THE EQUATION IS ME, THE DRIVER, AND ONE HALF OF THE RISK IS UNDER MY CONTROL AND SO I DEMAND HALF OF THE REWARD WHEN I REACH THE END OF THE ROAD SAFELY!